There is strong support for Gary McKinnon's case to be tried here in the United Kingdom, made by the eminent lawyer, former Liberal Democrat MP, and Independent Reviewer of this Labour Government's anti-terrorism legislation, Rt. Hon. Lord Carlile of Berriew QC,
Why it would be cruel not to put Gary McKinnon on trial in Britain
By Lord Carlile
Last updated at 11:24 PM on 05th July 2009[...]
As a Parliamentarian with involvement in the law and an interest in human rights, I have twice written to successive Home Secretaries to urge that Gary be tried in Britain.
Lord Carlile warns that the decision to prosecute Gary in the U.S. would be 'cruel and unconscionable'The medical evidence favours this overwhelmingly. If necessary, he could survive prison here without his life being wrecked beyond repair. The Government has argued that it cannot prevent the extradition as a matter of law, and has no discretion in the case.
However, it is wrong. According to the law, an offence can be tried in England and Wales, provided the conduct or its consequences took place in England and Wales.
Gary McKinnon's conduct was in England. He can be tried in England.
Like so many legal issues, the solution adopts common sense as the benchmark. To sum up, where there is an offence in the home country of the offender, there is an option for the home country to bring the malefactor to justice either by prosecution or by extradition.
So the Home Secretary is perfectly free to decide that Gary McKinnon should be tried and, should the necessity arise, be sentenced here in Britain. He can choose.
The choice in at least three other cases of hacking into U.S. computer systems has been for the trials to be held in the UK. Similarly, several fraud cases that could have been tried in the U.S. or the UK have been tried here
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A further article in today's Daily Mail:
Terror law boss backs Gary McKinnon's fight: New support for Asperger's victim facing extradition
lists some more eminent supporters of Gary McKinnon:
- Nick Hornby - award winning author
- Barry Norman - film critic
- Jilly Cooper - author
- Trevor Baylis - inventor
- Lord Clement Jones of Clapham - Chairman of the All Party Autism Group
- Alan Simpson MP- Labour
- Dr. Vincent Cable MP - Liberal Democrat Treasury Spokesman
- Norman Baker MP - Liberal Democrat
- Tim Loughton MP - Conservative Children;s Spokesman and Vice-Chair of the Parliamentary Group on Autism.
- Peter Kilfoyle MP - Labour former Defence Minister
- Lord Morris of Manchester - Labour
- Dr. Dawn Heath - Psychologist
- Mark Lever - Chief Executive, National Autistic Society
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Hackers Perspective
What this case is really about has been completely spun by media and miss understandings.
It is about power.
Power as in politics and people.
This planet, if you havent noticed, has many unresolved issues. Poverty, war, polution and on and on.
It has evolved into an Us and Them situation.
They make the rules, start the oil wars, starve the children and create the polution.
And we sit in front of our t.v's.
Hackers are a danger to them only because they have read all the data in their secret data bases.
And they know how much they have to hide.
For example - what if hackers know that there really is aliens and free energy.
And that the truth is being withheld.
That would make hackers terrorists now wouldnt it?
Either way - the real danger is the truth:::::::::
lucy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197950/Gary-just-guy-looking-ET-This-witch-hunt-end-thats-man-NASAs-view.html#comments
Will anybody listen now!!
정도영
게리를 석방하라! 미국정부는 닥치고 게리를 석방해야한다! 인간은 무언가를 알 권리가 있다! 처음부터 사실을 밝혔으면 이런 일도 없지 않았을까!
Stu
Fingers crossed now the Daily Mail are really pushing this, sanity is going to prevail!
I Don't Know Anymore - B.H. something or B.H. many things.
Elle,
There's something provacatve about what you posted:
"For example - what if hackers know that there really "is" (sic - but as a linguist, I like this)aliens and free energy."
"And that the truth is being withheld."
"That would make hackers terrorists now wouldnt it?"
No! Words still have meaning and you know better than to maintain that knowledge is terror or criminal. Gary, keep on seeking knowledge.
The Asperger Training Company
Through the work that I do, I come in to contact with many people with Asperger Syndrome( I have it myself also!)
I know that when we have an idea in our heads, we can become quite obsessed with that and as we are very determined and can be sometimes quite stubborn, the obsession often does not go away.
I do not know Gary McKinnon personally, but I have read many articles about his situation.
For anyone with Asperger Syndrome to have to deal with the uncertaintly of what will happen and how that will affect them for the rest of their life would be extremely stressful to say the least.
Many people with Asperger Syndrome like structure and to know that something will happen and when it will happen.When I look back at this case and how long it has dragged on for Gary, I cannot even begin to imagine what I would feel like if I was in this position.
We all know that there are rules and there are boundaries, but what happens to us when we are completely obsessed by something we dont stop and think what the consequences of our actions may be.
Many people are in prison with Asperger Syndrome. Many are there due to their impulsive behaviour.The judicial system needs to better understand people with our neurological difference.Many people in the press say 'sufferer of asperger Syndrome'. We are not sufferers. We simply want the rest of the world to better understand us.
I cannot speak for Gary. After all how could I when although we may share the same label, we are individuals with maybe some similar difficulties.
I hope that the pressure that has been put on the UK government will suffice and they can show us that they do have an understanding of diversity and difference, and whilst we must accept that there are rules and regulations, we must look at the bigger picture and begin to understand hidden disabilities better and offer support, advice and guidance rather than confining someone to a nightmare existance for a very very long time.
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Gary is not a terrorist - not in any way.
The term terrorist was created by politicians to identify anything in their mix that they did not like or found to be a threat. This is a huge grey area - a black hole that can potentially swallow up everything. For it was based on prejudice and prejudice knows no bounds.
Unfortunately - this also includes those in society who are 'different' as well.
Hitler used the same term in the same way, interestingly.
And in my life experience the ones that pointed fingers were the ones that had the most to hide.
My theory is that Windows was built with so many entry points and security flaws for government to spy on us...
You see they want to know all your personal business and bank account || but we are not allowed to view the governments databases and national reserve.
Exclusion and secrecy are not the only problems we have, though. With all of that power so easily abused anything can happen. Consider for a moment that free energy exists and that it is being withheld........
Windows of mass destruction
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows_of_mass_destruction?source=rss_blogs
"For most of this week, prominent Web sites in both South Korea and the United States have been being bombarded by DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks. At times, these assaults have knocked out multiple major sites. North Korea has been taking the blame for these attacks, but no one has any proof yet. What we do know is that the weapon that's doing this damage is compromised Windows PCs.
e total cost of these attacks, which have included aThssaults on the New York Stock Exchange, Treasury Department, Secret Service, and the Federal Trade Commission in the U.S., probably comes into the billions of dollars.
Isn't it clear by now that Windows is the real problem? Yes, the people who write malware, and the programs themselves are the proximate causes for Website mass destruction, but if wasn't for Windows, these attacks wouldn't exist."
Elle
Stu
So Elle, if I understand you correctly, then what you're saying is Microsoft colluded with the US government to design an operating system that they can use to spy on their own citizens? Where is your evidence for this theory?
How would the government benefit from knowing bank account details and if they required bank account details wouldn't they do better to approach the banks directly rather than collecting and filtering data from millions of individual PCs?
Hello04
Does this say something or is it old?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/437967.stm
Al
Ok,
If the likes of Omar Bakri Mohammed and co can scream to the European Court of Human Rights. the win, we have to keep them at tax payers expense, Gary should to. If the HCHR reject him then we know clearly where there's and our governments priorities are and wonder why people are not voting for them and get out of the HCHR contract immediately. This is one case where the HCHR could do what they are supposed to do, and protect someone from potential harm!
Aspergers is in my opinion a cruel condition and being unable to interact socially can cause a lot of psychological harm as well as being fodder for victimization. It is a condition that is not really understood that sympathetically in some areas of society.
Brown. failing to act on this, even though yes, he should be given a UK punishment, is like him saying that all Asperger's sufferers should be sectioned off! Sure vote loser!!!
Obama should see the vulnerabilities he exposed and hire him into the Pentagon to help close the holes...
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080429/095514977.shtml
Microsoft Gives Vista Backdoor Keys To The Police
"It's long been assumed that Microsoft has built in various "backdoors" for law enforcement to get around its own security, but now reader Kevin Stapp writes in to let us know that the company has also been literally handing out the keys to law enforcement. Apparently, they're giving out special USB keys that simply get around Microsoft's security, allowing the holder of the key to very quickly get forensic information (including internet surfing history), passwords and supposedly encrypted data off of a laptop."
Stu
Elle
You may have missed this bit at the end of the article:
"Some folks in the comments, and Ed Bott, claim that this post is a misreading of the original story. The USB key includes a bunch of standard tools, not access to a "backdoor." The confusion, on my part, was due to the original article claiming that the device "can decrypt passwords and analyze a computer's Internet activity, as well as data stored in the computer." In saying so, it appeared that the device must have access to a backdoor to decrypt the password -- but an update claims that it's merely "password security auditing technologies."
I hope that clears up any confusion you may have had about this.
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
A backdoor is still a backdoor by any other name:::::::::::
Adriano Wanderley
Gary McKinnon we of Brazil are with you!
Han replied to comment from Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Ha, ha, ha, ha. "A backdoor is still a backdoor by any other name?" Are you serious? McKinnon has repeatedly admitted installing Remotely Anywhere (a backdoor) onto 97 computers belonging to the U.S. government. And yet you (and he) still claim he did no damage. So it is only when the U.S. government does something that it constitutes damage? Double-standard much?
Oh wait, they were created in order to improve the security of the machines, right? 'Cause that is what he was really trying to do. He was so concerned that security on U.S. military computers was so bad that he selfless stayed up nights for a year trying to fix them all by installing Remotely Anywhere. Give him a job!! So why is it that *you* don't give him a job? And why don't any of his other 'supporters?'
Are those crickets I hear or just another awkward silence?
Han
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Aeolus
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