The Judicial Review of Gary McKinnon's extradition case, is provisionally set to be heard on Tuesday 9th June and Wednesday 10th June 2009.
Only the Aspergers's Syndrome aspects of the handling of the case by the Home Office etc. will be heard, none of the alleged evidence against Gary will be allowed to be heard or challenged. No other Human Rights aspects of the case will be heard either.
K
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~rtm/
rtm, released a really bad virus in the 80's infected military hardware.
he didn't get 70 years???
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
2600, The Hardcover book recently released::::::
Claims that cases like this are just an attempt for increasing fear among citizens so that the government can go ahead and censor the internet....
? You guys just can't stand it that maybe we don't need you anymore::: ? You guys just can't stand the thought that thanks to the internet we can govern ourselves:::
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
FYI - K Starnes
A Windows Ops with a Administration account left on default access - Admin/empty - is not a HACK
:::Ask any one of us hackers:::
Matt t
They had better take into account the professional opinion given by Baron-Cohen as opposed to just looking on wikipedia...
John
LONDON: Foreign Secretary David Miliband and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith have both refused to appear before Parliament’s human rights committee to answer questions about allegations of British collusion in the torture of British citizens and residents detained during counter-terrorism operations in Pakistan.
In a move that dismayed members of the Joint Committee on Human Rights (JCHR), a joint letter from the foreign secretary and home secretary is also said to have failed to answer any of the eight questions that the committee asked about legal provisions offering MI5 officers immunity in the UK for crimes committed overseas.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/uk-ministers-refuse-to-appear-before-hr-panel--za
Matt T
Jacqui Smith is a corrupt sack of shit anyway. Did you hear about her expense claims? Lu-Labour is a fucking disease. She isnt going to give a shit about anyone except herself. Same goes for Tony Blair.
John
Pretty damning when she claims money for two houses when she's actually just living with her sister three days a week.
How on Earth are Jacqui Smith and David Milliband allowed to just refuse to attend questioning about the torture involving MI5/MI6.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/uk-ministers-refuse-to-appear-before-hr-panel--za
k
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tappan_Morris
Conviction(s) Intentional access of Federal interest computers without authorization thereby preventing authorized access and causing a loss in excess of $1,000.00 [1] Jury returned a verdict of "guilty" on 22 Jan 1990, after 5½ hours of deliberations[1]
Penalty Probation for a term of three years and 400 hours of community service in a manner determined by the Probation Office and approved by the Court.[1]
18 years later, can the law change so much?
non_ _anonymous
Bush's (replaced now by Obama) new friend Gordon Brown has made more damage then Gary
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/4808373/Gordon-Brown-helped-fuel-banking-crisis---FSA-head.html
How lame is this?
Was it a mistake (again):-?
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Sad how gullible the general public is. Tell them there is a hacker in the neigbourhood that did $1 mill in damage and they believe without asking any questions nor doing any research.
Sad how politicians seem to think that they can choose what we think and how we feel about an alleged hacker and they think it is alright not to listen to the voice of the people they serve.
FACT: Gary accessed the systems through a valid default account that was open. There was no hack AND he did no damage - just looked around.
FACT: The information on the government systems should be open to all citizens - full disclosure - and politicians should be escorted out of office and replaced by an internet based/ tv based self governing system, where we make all the decisions for ourselves. We have the technology now.
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
The term " terrorist " has become a popular catch phrase for politicians interested in :: enforcing marshal law :: concealing information on free energy or aliens or anything else they don't want us to know :: dealing with people who oppose their private agenda :: censoring and controlling the information on the internet :: invading other contries to steal their natural resources ::
Gary McKinnon must have seen something very important to be called a terrorist and be facing 70 years...
Why is this information not public?
Why is it that this information that is supposed to be public property is not readily accessible by the citizens?
Why is it that Garys fate is being decided by a small group of impartial people? This is a big issue - it is really about access and control for all of us and our children and their children to come.
Wake up people
non _anonymous
See the links below, a man which has done a real/bad crime but didn't get 70years?
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/03/botnet-hacker-g.html
or
[content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=indystar&sParam=30287291.story]
How can you call someone who's searching for PROOVES of UFO's a "terrorist" and want him jail for 70years?
Han
Sad how gullible the general public is. An admitted felon tells them he did no harm, was just lookng around, and his human rights were violated and they believe him without asking any questions or doing any research. They even think he is a hero and the real victim in the case!
FACT: McKinnon is not charged with "hacking," he is charged with unauthorized access. Whether the account had a password or not, it was not his account and thus he was not authorized to enter.
FACT: McKinnon admitted to installing a remote-control program on dozens of NASA and military PCs, so that even if the administrators had fixed the password issue of which McKinnon claims to have alerted them, he would have created a back door so that he could return. That constitutes hacking.
FACT: Information on government computers includes personal information about citizens, information about the security of public and private facilities, defense plans, etc., which should not be available to the public.
If McKinnon found such valuable information, then why doesn't he share it with everyone, as you and others here urge the government to share such information? Do you honestly believe that someone who spent hundreds of hours allegedly searching for data on UFOs was unable to hit when he finally found that information? Or that an image that took a long time to download and displayed on his screen was not downloaded onto his computer anywhere that he could access it later?
If McKinnon was just looking for UFOs and free energy, then why did he write a threatening note deriding U.S. foreign policy and (allegedly) delete thousands of accounts from a Domain Controller, effectively shutting down a large network for several days? Isn't that the same kind of abuse of power for which you lambast the U.S. and U.K. governments?
Saying that McKinnon's human rights are/will be violated is just insulting to those who have endured actual human rights violations. McKinnon is simply not in the same class as victims of genocide, torture, etc. Nor is he likely to ever be in such a class, at the hands of the Evil Americans(TM), or from anyone else.
That he has supposedly suffered over the last 7 years is a product purely of his own unwillingness to accept the consequences of his actions. He has NOT taken responsibility for his conduct, instead making the ludicrous and contrary-to-the-evidence claim that he did no damage. It is like shooting someone with a gun and then admiting that you illegally possessed the gun.
At any time that he wishes the opportunity to contest the damage claims it is solely within his power to submit to extradition and in less than 6 months he can be arraigned, have a trial, and (if convicted) be sentenced. It is only as a result of his pointless and meritless appeals that this has dragged on so long. Otherwise he would long ago have been free of this and could be living his life again. I guess it is true what they say, a brave man dies but once, a coward dies a thousand times.
- Han
p.s. Let the knee-jerk insults and ranting begin!
Han
Whoops. Paragraph 5 should say "was unable to hit Prt Scrn" Guess I shouldn't have put it in brackets. Stupid HTML not-tag.
- Han
John
FACT: He was unable to download the UFO image because he was on a DIAL UP COMPUTER seven years ago. That's why it would take that long to download. Have you ever used Dial Up? especially seven years ago.
FACT Remotely Anywhere is a commercially available tool used by thousands of people on a daily basis. Not some evil hacker tool.
McKinnon did a simple scan for blank passwords and was shocked to see there were thousands. Whereas every real hacker from various countries around the world already knew the U.S security was crap.
FACT Searching for UFO's does no exclude having a political opinion and leaving notes in the form of a cyber peace protest and cyber grafitti.
Re-9/11: Normal American protocol requires fighter jets to fly alongside any plane that is flying off course. They are told to monitor the pilots, assess who's flying etc and they will force a plane to land or even blow it up if the plane won't land and the threat is deemed serious.
However despite a plane being flown of course for a full twenty minutes, not one fighter jet flew up to assess the situation, even though one plane was supposedly flying towards the Pentagon.
You only need half a brain to realise that something was not right there. Which is why McKinnon BRAVELY left a note saying that he believed it was no accident that there was a stand down after 9/11.
McKinnon knew that normal protocol had not been followed and that there were no passwords or firewalls on thousands of machines.
He therefore believed that the U.S government was guilty of state sponsored terrrorism.
WHERE WERE THE FIGHTER JETS?
His "disruption" was "notes left on computers"...In the form of a cyber peace protest and cyber grafitti.
He has not murdered anyone and should absolutely not be extradited for a relatively minor crime that the U.S tries to turn into some BIG crime because of their own embarrassement.
Gary McKinnon is resigned to being tried in his own country.
However the U.S told the Director of Public Prosecutions and the CPS (just over a week ago)that 5 years was not a long enough sentence and that's why they are still insisting on extradition, then this goes to prove that they intend to lock Gary McKinnon up for decades... because they are vindictive to the end.
Now Answer this if you dare: Would you rather a real terrorist had "alerted" you to the fact that your security was virtually non existent.
We all know that Gary would never get any trial in the U.S.
Do you still want to shoot the messenger, or do you perhaps want to find out if you had traitors in your midst and perhaps that's why THOUSANDS of military and NASA computers had no passwords and no firewalls for years!
I thought Americans questioned things and didn't just accept the government line without "looking" at the facts.
Gary McKinnon was traced by a student in an American university (Not by the military).
When the prosecutors put in the indictment that McKinnon had damaged the computers on every machine he was on, the university said McKnnon had not caused any damage.
So they were then "quietly" removed from the indictment.
$5,000 dollars of damage on each machine was required to prosecute federally, so magically this was the exact figure claimed.
The only so called damage was that they had to upgrade their systems, so perhaps you ought to thank Gary McKinnon for that, rather than trying to crucify him.
This Treaty is going to fail because the U.S is taking the p.ss out of Brits.
We were told that this one sided extradition treaty was to be used only for terrorists and Gary McKinnon is clearly not a Terrorists although I have no doubt if extradited, the U.S prosecutors would attempt to turn him into one in order to save face.
The Treaty Will Fail because of this horrendous pursuit. Just Watch!!!
Olly
The U.K government has betrayed it's own citizens by signing a one way extradition treaty with America and as the U.S need to provide no evidence whatsoever, it could be any one of us next.
Brilliant that Sting had the guts to speak up for Gary McKinnon and against this one sided treaty. Soon other voices will join the chorus I am sure.
As John said, we were told that this treaty was to be used only for terrorists.
However the U.S is trying to extradite British Airways Execs for "price fixing" and are trying to extradite entrepeneurs and business men and women.
The U.S also tried to extradite British hoteliers aged in their 70's because the U.S claimed they hadn't paid tax "SIXTEEN YEARS" ago.
They then "allowed" the hoteliers Mr & Mrs Tollman to plead guilty by video link and to pay millions of pounds in fines to America, plus they were forced to give most of their hotels away, that way they avoided extradition and were sentenced to one days probation.
Mrs Tolman was suicidal with worry of extradition which is apparently why her husband pled guilty.
There are many other examples of this. All these extradition requests happened after the one sided treaty started being used as no evidence was then required which allowed the U.S to start taking the piss.
Extradition used to be used only for murder and the like, so what is happening here.
Many U.K citizens have been extradited and are currently facing extradition under this treaty which has to be thrown out.
Our spineless U.K government has betrayed us all.
Because of the Gary McKinnon case this one sided extradition treaty will fail, as it absolutely should.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologynews/4946289/Pentagon-hacker-Gary-McKinnon-should-not-be-extradited-IT-expert-claims.html
green65
Han you shouldn't believe in every lie.
People would run away from listening to such crap.
So thanks for showing another evil bulshit!
:P
_n-o-n_a-n-o-n-y-m-o-u-s_
Earlier reffered to, but there was no link to the article in the comment:
"Crucial evidence goes missing in hacker case"
www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23526403-details/Crucial+evidence+goes+missing+in+hacker+case/article.do
Thank you
tree
We were told that the new president was good in connecting people, but this doesn't look as it, he's more going in a one way train, just replaced Bush and propably joined the "skull and bones" club.
Can he not drop down case or say sorry to the Gary family? Doesn't he see that Gary is innocent and doesn't belong to be a terrorist nor criminal!?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29413393/wid/11
Tim
I applaud Gary McKinnon's actions and God bless and protect him! Now, on another issue, I think sometimes the government sets traps to set people up (nobody knows for sure), however, the US Gov. will spin this issue so that they can extract ever more money to pump into public and black operations. I'm afraid to say, my dear friends, the USA is really being run by a defacto military dictatorship.
Whoever has not seen this PLEASE go to: www.disclosureproject.org and download or watch the video of the National Press Club presentation and watch military officers of various ranks, mil. contractors and some others disclose their evidence about what some in our revered government(USA) are doing behind our backs. It will remove your doubts.PlEASE pass this on to your friends. This is the only way to get the info out.
Tim
an additional comment:
It doesn't make sense that a network like the one Gary supposedly hacked into would be left unprotected. I reiterate that it could very well have been a trap. The USA Gov used the outcome of 911 to get what? More money for the military. Now Gary's case represents another opportunity to get more money to make our country more secure. See how it works. Formula: Create or allow security breaches and control the outcomes and you have a continuing source of money. To date, there is little or no scrutiny of the US military budget.
Bobby replied to comment from _n-o-n_a-n-o-n-y-m-o-u-s_
Tell Gary's mother, to REPLACE/FIRE the team!
There's something not going as it should be!
Gary
For you
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197&Itemid=51
james replied to comment from Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Couldn't agree more.
Things are going down the pan nicely thanks to our governments.
People are waking up, but too slowly.
They're having trouble believing any government could be responsible for such machiavellian schemes.
Guess the fluoride and sham media is working...
n-o-n_anonymous
Corrupt US, corrupt court case..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologynews/4946289/Pentagon-hacker-Gary-McKinnon-should-not-be-extradited-IT-expert-claims.html
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Hackers Perspective
All this hoopla is really about censorship and control.
Wish the general population were not all so duh....
tree
The actions of the US is non the less "illegal" [includes Gary Mckinnon case!].
The nazi/skull and boones/criminal- group have the money, technology and power to buy or kill everyone off who are against them.
Their power may include ufo technology. The best gun that they could have/use when the other part
of the world is agains them.
Their desire must be: The whole humans in the world as slaves...
That's why they are slowly taking everyone's power away,...
_non_ anonymous replied to comment from Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Looks like Obama is eating his drugs (cocaine)..
Hard times for the family.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/02/27/dear-barack-please-save-my-hacker-son-86908-21156386
For Gary and the supporters:
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gpd93HF6fw]
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
My daughters personal injury lawsuit lasted 8 years. At one point the lawyers were 'loosing' evidence.
I fired them and hired a new team.
Latter I discovered that the previous law firm worked both sides. If I had not followed my instinct she would have lost.
Today she is quite set and is touring Australia then off to New Zealand, then...
-n-o-n anonymous
Does Gary's mother look on this blog?
The whole Gary case is almost controlled.
One day we had good news about Gary, the other day bad and then again..
Controlled media!
Why is such one hard to find:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23526403-details/Crucial+evidence+goes+missing+in+hacker+case/article.do
Don't let the morons fool you.
This below should answser one of your qwestions. (fg: If you want "free energy" you need to kick them out!)
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[video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7889976507340301551]
1:24:01
The fact of the matter is we are lied to about just about every important issue on the planet. The powers-that-be lie to us about what they are really doing and because we trust politicians and what comes over the mainstream media, they get away with it. THEY LIE. There is no oil shortage, Peak oil is a fraud concocted by the bankers and oil barons in a massive scheme to use oil to control the world. Lindsey Williams spent 3 years in Prudo Bay Alaska, sitting in board meetings with these people and learned first hand of the frauds being perpetrated on all of us, with the full knowledge and collusion of our government. If you want to put an end to it, we have to take control of our government away from these people. Help us do this by joining The Kick Them All Out Project and the Fire Congress Campaign. [www.KickThemAllOut.com] or [www.FireCongress.org]
===
Gary is INNOCENT. Even if he pushed the wrong button!!
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
The Gary McKinnon case encompases many globally critical issues;
The people on the planet don't get it....yet;
What this is REALLY about;
You are too good for this world Gary;
As ' I get it ';
During one 'abduction';
One in countless;
I was starting to wise up - it was about stealing genetics;
So I thought of a way to prove this happenedto me;
Chatting up the crew, I got them to show me the engine;
It employed ' free energy ';
I thought if I could reproduce it -that would be proof;
Unfortunately the design is so complex I alone can not;
Even being an engineer - myself;
So this whole experience made me rethink my life;
But I can see how majority of people never ask questions;
That is why we have what we have;
Corruption;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Salutations to Gary;
The Man who tried to free the planet;
Elle
Eyes4Lies
@Elle Hart, "Elec. Eng. Tech"; Hacker; Alien Abducted; Schizophrenic...take your pick.
Oh My God!!! You have got to remember your medication. Everyday Elle....Everyday!!!! Stop skipping your doses.
Sylvain replied to comment from Han
Han, before saying stupidities please go to www.disclosureproject.org.
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
The Information Age
What the information age means to me is information sharing, And when the net first started back in the 70's I remember surfing text-based government and university sites. It has grown amazingly fast. The net always inspired me as a place where a great new world could emerge. A world free from poverty, violence, environmental destruction - could possibly be stopped by the combined effort of a global community.
Originally the net was for sharing research among scientists, and the government, but now there is a definite push to have control and censorship - the opposite of what the net 'is'. This would spell the death of the net - if the government was allowed to censor at the borders and control and regulate information flow.
I know it may seem trivial to some - but we are fighting a war - right now - right in our livingrooms.
Han - how do you know that 911 was not staged? How do we know if the hole in the military network was not staged for Gary? Well, I guess we never will really know - will we - because the government information is not available to us - so they can do whatever they want, spend our money the way they want, and we never know the difference.
Anyone who thinks that secrecy and non disclosure, censorship and control, is OK is a fool.
Elle
John
It's not Elle that needs medication, it's those that actually enjoy hounding and hating and enjoy blowing up minor non violent crime (if crime there was) way out of proportion.
This blog is for supporters but you can't keep away. Get a life!
Every time you speak/write you do a dis-service to all Americans.
Eyes 4 lies = taste for hate.
We know who you are, you all stand out a mile.
Jenny
Protocol when a plane flies off course: Fighter jets are sent up to fly alongside and monitor the pilot to see if he's being held hostage. Also to monitor the passengers.
If there's a threat, the plane is then made to force land and if buildings (Especially the twin towers and Pentagon are close by) the plane is shot down.
Despite the planes being flown off course for twenty minutes, not one fighter jet or any other plane followed protocol! Not one plane flew alongside.
There were no planes sent to protect the Pentagon!!!
...and we're supposed to believe this Bullshit!
We all know that 9/11 was definitely an inside job. Just as we know why Han & Eyes 4 lies are on this website.
Lu Lu
Yes Gary's mother does read the comments on here and sometimes prints them out for Gary to read.
They're extremely grateful for the support they get from you and how you stand up for Justice and write to Jacqui Smith etc
The bad guys are in the minority. They're sick and need help, or perhaps they're already on some medication to keep them vindictive & filled with anger, revenge and hate.
I mean they really believe that NO PLANES would be sent up to protect the Pentagon against another plane being flown off course for twenty minutes!!! Now how sad is that.
Perhaps they're incapable of thinking independently.
-non _ anonymous
Thank you. If you look at everything (like that shoe thrower at Bush: jail 3 years,etc), you see clearly that they (US gov,etc) dont allow their presidents,etc to get a scratch or make them SHAME.
This is utter bullshit and need to STOP.
Every thing they have done is the SAME AS TO HITLERS (look at what happens in a prison in irak, camps everywhere,.. killing own people, lies,etc). If Gary gets 70years, then Bush and his friends schould get 20000years and Obama 70x70years. They are the only real criminals.
I'm not posting such articles/journals/news here because it would get deleted.
These shameless people are now attacking Gary!
Gary deserves a mountain money for going through all this CRAP.
Don't forget to click on my user name.
Thank you.
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Another thought pertaining to the 'legal team'.
Thinking back - when evidence went missing on my daughters case - I have a question for Gary's Mom.
Don't you think it should be standard practice for a 'professional' to have made copies of documents, photo's, recordings, AND to safeguard the originals with their life?
After all - lawyers must sign an oath similar to a physicians hypocratic oath, stating that they WILL serve their clients defense and non other. Otherwise they can be brought in front of the BAR and in a worse case senario de-barred from practicing law.
The missing evidence was my que to get a new legal team, and I am so glad I followed my gut instincts. The lawyer originally hired ended up going to work for the other side! So it was clear to me that he was delibrately botching evidence - obviously was paid a largeg sum of money to do so and was given a higher paying position with the other side.
Amazing how people trust lawyers, doctors and politicians - DON'T DO IT ! - they are all corrupt - will prostitute themselves for the right price!
Elle
_non_ anonymous replied to comment from Matt T
Corrupt isn't the right word.
They are criminals, but also puppets of criminals.
This is why Gary has it diffucult.
Gordon brown has another plan fulfilled http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/iainmartin/4295219/Gordon-Brown-brings-Britain-to-the-edge-of-bankruptcy.html, it is so they could allow the NWO! Obama and Hillary are not visiting several countrys to look how it's weathers are!
Jane
I struggle with all the technical and legal jargon and their varied implications, but from what I understand Gary has accepted that snooping in someone elses files is wrong - he's apologised and is willing to be punished for his actions, so long as that punishment is reasonable and fitting to the crime. Take into account his Asperger's Syndrome and the US approach seems (to a simple citizen)rather heavy handed to say the least.
It would be interesting to understand the real fear. What is hidden, how easily it can be found and who stands to be most emarrassed?
I hope Gary takes strength and hope from his family and supporters - good luck!
Stu
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7946393.stm
Charlie
I just wanted to say good luck Gary, I've been following your case on the news and just found this site: I hope that you don't have to face this ridiculous extradition - it's my opinion that you did them a favour by pointing out the security breaches... anyway good luck, no-one deserves this firestorm you've faced, for a non-violent crime.
kenny
sorry he should go to jail
He's clever enough to hack into computers but at no point thought this was wrong or illegal
Autism or not, he's still a criminal and should be treated as such. I do, however, think that 70 years is a bit steep...
_-non_ -anonymous_- replied to comment from kenny
There's NO "he should go".
You support the STUPID and the EVIL.
Gary didn't get a warning and he's destinations were for good purposes and had a good reason.
They pricked this price on Gary as how they WISHED and also changed things to get him!
First read the full blog before you add another BULSHIT.
This is clear enough!
Olivia
Gary is fully prepared to be tried and sentenced in the U.K. His very minor crime hould not be an extraditable offence.
Gary is not fighting Prosecution. Gary is Fighting Extradition and rightly so.
Only serious criminals should be extradited and even then, evidence should have to be provided but at the moment the U.S is taking the piss by trying to extradite Business man Ian Norris, British Airways Execs. recently the Tolmans who are Hoteliers aged in their seventies, to name but a few.
All these extraditons were requested after our government signed the unfair one sided extradition treaty with the U.S.
Prior to that only murderers etc were extradited.
America is using the new Extradition treaty irresponsibly and is abusing the trust our silly government put in them.
The U.S is taking the piss!
Happy Paddys Day!
Elle Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Unauthorized access.....hmmm....don't think so;
We should have full unrestricted access to all government held information. after all WE own the government. We fund the government. WE put their ass in office to make the world a better place and MOST OFTEN they stab us in the back and FAIL us in so many ways - like protecting our citizens from harm - like Gary....
And people ;; you better wake up before its too late...
Elle
PAUL STRONG replied to comment from K
Hi its only a thought but would it be possible for Gary to offer to use his skills to assist the US and UK Governments to hack the taliban and extremist websites for a certain amount of time like as a community service. Instead of punishing him he could help out no end.
John Fl replied to comment from K
As all legal attemps have failed we urge you to help petition Obama to give Gary one final reprieve.
Please sign the Petition; Obama - Please don't extradite Gary McKinnon!
http://www.my-cause.com/obama__please_dont_extradite_gary_mckinon